NEB&W Presents Clark Propst's Photo Album
I was having a hard time keeping up with all the neat prototype photos that Clark Propst has been forwarding to me. I wanted to post them throughout our site where they are most appropriate, but this is what takes time. Therefore, until each is posted elsewhere, they will be posted here. (However, as I get them placed in the right section, they may disappear from here.)
In addition to thanking Clark for sharing them with the rest of us, Richard Hendrickson has been nice enough to jot down some background information, to put these cars in context.
Also, Soph Marty got a scanner and starting sending his photos directly, so for more of his, see the Soph Marty Freight Car Photo Album.
The latest photos are placed here, and then after awhile, I hope to sort them by car type and incorporate them below.
Posted October, 2003
- Clark sent along a number of views of a cement plant c. 1923, which shows several freight cars:
Posted October, 2001
- SD Marty 1970 photo of Ashley, Drew & Northern 1474, a 1937-type (Athearn) box car, with 5/5 Dreadnaught ends. Tim O'Connor noted that actually the car has a different rivet pattern and the roof appears to be flat.
- Ben Hom said it appears to be an ex-PRR Class X37 box car, which was basically Pennsy's proprietary version of the 1937 AAR design - 5/5 Dreadnaught ends, but with the following unusual "Standard Railroad of Altoona" features: flat panel roof with depressed panels at either end to accommodate the lateral running boards; 10 panel sides, with narrow panels on either side of the door and the odd rivet pattern Tim noted; a unique looking side sill, with the "tabs" at the bolsters longer than that seen on "normal" 1937 AAR boxcars; "X29" ladders with a bracket grab above hopper-like sill step; 7-foot wide door; and Pennsy freight car trucks.
Hom sent along some links to Rob Schoenberg's PRR site supporting his ID of this car as an ex-PRR Class X37 box car:
- SD Marty 1968 photo of WAG 5162. (I think I've already posted this shot, below, but I will have to check.)
- SD Marty 1961 photo of a West Indies Fruit Co. box car, no. 246. This photo is unusual in showing a dark green or black car instead of the usual box car red.
- SD Marty 1963 photo of RI 369. It looks like an express box car, with Diagonal Panel Roof, but the door looks like the older version of the Youngstown. It is hard to tell if the ends are Dreadnaught or Improved Dreadnaught, except it appears to be a 5/5 pattern, which would make it a Dreadnaught. The roof might be some weird '40's style with two raised panels, rather than a Diagonal Panel.
- SD Marty 1963 photo of RI F-unit 652. In the background is the Murphy end of a Santa Fe stock car.
- SD Marty 1969 photo of RI 4628, a 7-panel Howe truss stock car, with the slatted openings filled in. Note the roof is flat.
- SD Marty 1974 photo of RI flat no. 91567 with an interesting load.
- SD Marty 1963 photo of a wreck on the Milwaukee.
- Another SD Marty 1963 photo, of the same wreck. Note the tractors - Tim O'Connor thinks they might be Cockshutt. And is that the Athearn crane in the background?
- T. L. De Fazio photo; S. D. Marty collection of PRR 3750, a Pennsy K4 steam engine and train, taken Aug. '57 at Long Branch, NJ. De Fazio said that unexpectedly, this engine is one of only two K4's that survived scrapping.
- SD Marty 1958 photo of an MP trailer on flat car.
- SD Marty 1958 photo of an NKP diesel switcher.
- Bill Eno 1974 photo of NP 28318, a 7-panel single-sheathed box car, which I think I've already posted below.
Posted August, 2001
- Bill Eno 1973 photo of Ferrocarril Del Pacifico 50-foot box car, taken in Manly, IA. Note the orange grabs and ladders - is that a light shade of rust or an actual paint color? Also, the dimensional data would appear to be in Spanish.
(Steve Wagner said the "rust"-colored grabs, handrails AND RUNNING BOARDS were almost surely painted that color. Mexicana Models (apparently part of Bev-Bel) has offered at least one car painted like the one in the photo.)
- SD Marty 1958 photo of Texas Mexican box car no. 8947, a 10-foot inside-height 7-panel Pratt truss single-sheathed box car. (The MDC single-sheathed 40-foot box car, given double Youngstown doors, would be a possible way to model this - sort of. It's not the best representation of a single-sheathed car in general.)
- The white rectangle to the far right says "Load to Tex. Mex. Points Only - Not To Be Moved Off Line." Richard Hendrickson said these were acquired second hand in the late 1950's (As far as he knows, the Tex-Mex never owned any new rolling stock). There were five cars, TM 8943-8947 (though 8944 lasted only briefly on the TM roster) and they were ex-Chicago Great Western 80400-80798 series. This photo was probably taken shortly after the Tex-Mex got the cars and repainted/restenciled them. He has a couple of photos of these cars in CGW service.
- SD Marty 1974 photo of Toledo, Peoria & Western no. 5038, a 40 foot PS-1, with the sitting Indian logo. Note the TP&W PS-1 to the right, in an older scheme.
Garth Groff said this car appears to be a rare 10 foot IH PS-1 (almost all others were 10 ft. 6 ins. high inside). He said to note the lower height in relation to the other PS-1, and the lack of the small top rib on the ends. Without his lists there at work he can't be sure, but he thinks the only (or at least most) cars like this were originally built for the New Haven. These were later sold off, rebuilt and leased out (IIRC by USRE). Some ended up on the D&RGW.
- (As far as Groff knows, the only other 10-foot inside-height PS-1's were 50-foot 1-1/2 door box cars built for the Navy. One of these survives at the Western Railroad Museum at Rio Vista Jct. in California.)
- SD Marty 1959 photo of UP 176449, class A-50-19, a double-door 40-foot box car, similar to the Accurail kit. The car to the left would appear to be an SAL round-roof box car.
- Bill Eno 1967 photo of a Chicago Great Western X29-type box car, no. 85688. Note the recessed seams on the Creco door.
- Bill Eno 1973 photo of a CMO 1937-AAR type box car, no. 20026, equipped for express service. (I'm assuming that brown is supposed to be a Pullman green.)
- Bill Eno 1968 photo of a Rock Island 7-panel Howe truss stock car. I think the car number is 75133. It looks like the ends are composite, and assuming this is a 40-foot car, I'd say use the Mantua stock car as the closest model. (The roof looks like it is a "board-n-batten" Murphy XLa Flexible type.)
- Bill Eno 1966 photo of a couple more RI stock cars. Note that one car (no. 75031) has only the reporting marks, on the side sill, while the first car in the consist has the roadname on the letterboard and the reporting marks up one board.
- Also the first car looks a little bowed up - they must have tightened the truss rods a little too tight - an amazing feat, since the car doesn't have any.
- Bill Eno 1966 photo of a Rock Island steel rebuilt box (probably a USRA DS car originally), no. 95224. Propst pointed out the car is ending its days in sand service.
- Bill Eno 1973 photo of a RI covered gon, no. 3890, built in '66, still in its as-built scheme.
- Bill Eno 1968 photo of Oregon, Pacific & Eastern second-hand 50-foot round-roof box car. Propst said to note the judicious application of roofing tar.
- Bill Eno 1976 photo of a Milwaukee 40-foot 7-panel Howe truss single-sheathed box car. Propst guesses the car is from the 716500 series. You could use the MDC kit to model this, but you'd have to stand on your head, as it has a Pratt truss.
- Note the missing brake wheel and the "wood" trucks. But the weathering job is neat. Notice how each discoloration runs behind the bracing, from door to corner post. You might have to use some sort of pencil (an eyebrow pencil?)
- Bill Eno 1974 photo of GN 56229, a 7-panel Pratt truss stock car. It appears to have had its sides lined on the inside for MOW service of some type. They were rebuilt c. '59 from the GN's wood box cars (like the Athearn wood car), and differ from the Athearn stock car by having the diagonals pointing to the bottom of the door, and the older Dreadnaught end.
- Bill Eno 1976 photo of three stock cars - an NP car as represented nicely by the Central Valley kit, and a GN and CB&Q car, both of which could be represented by the Athearn kit, not-so-nicely.
- SD Marty 1956 photo of a Savannah & Atlanta 40-foot PS-1. These were built in '48, series 8200-8249, with an 8 foot wide door. They were renumbered in '57 to the 800-849 series.
The Santa Fe car to the right would seem to be a rebuilt car - notice the brackets along the side sill. The series 272000-273918 contained 1,851 cars in '49, lumped together classes Bx-41, 42, 45 and 46 - rebuilds of their ARA-type wood box car fleet.
- Sunshine offered a model of the Bx-49, a similar car, but with Improved Dreadnaught ends.
- RS 1964 photo of an Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac 50-foot PS-1 box car, no. 2925, in the as-built scheme. The car was built in 1960.
- Tim O'Connor noted that the car has a black roof, while the Kadee model has a galvanized roof.
- SD Marty 1971 photo of a similar RF&P box car, in the newer blue and white scheme.
- SD Marty 1957 photo of a yard full of box cars. Note the RI PS-1 in the 1952 centennial scheme and in the background, the Northampton & Bath "cement" box car - a USRA-steel clone. Westerfield offers a kit for the NB car.
- SD Marty 1961 photo of UTLX tank car no. 73678.
- SD Marty 1968 photo of a New Haven box car. Note the tackboard on the door.
Posted July, 2001
- Jerry Hesley 1968 photo of a trio of Rock Island converted troop sleepers. Propst pointed out that the RI had a lot of these rebuilds.
- SD Marty 1958 photo of a Grand Trunk Western rebuilt steel box car, no 470288.
- SD Marty 1954 photo of an L&N PS-1, no. 4860, being loaded at the American Tent & Awning Corp. in Norfolk, VA.
- SD Marty '57 photo of brand new GN no. 35134, a 50-foot double-door box car, which it appears to be a mere 7 months old.
- SD Marty 1958 photo of GATX 64398, leased to Wyandotte.
- Closeup of an SD Marty 1958 photo, showing an Erie box car. Propst noted the inside height was 10 ft. 4 ins., but the ends appear the same as the InterMountain Canadian box car.
- SD Marty 1959 photo of ET&WNC steam-powered train, unknown location.
- SD Marty 1963 photo of DCI 9-panel Howe-truss box car no. 5003. (I cranked up the contrast a little too much - the car is not really a brass model!) I believe that these were built in the early '20's, based on the USRA SS box car, but made a foot taller - so the Accurail car would be too low to represent this that well. I think the door is also 7 feet wide, but don't quote me on this. Note the radial roof.
- SD Marty 1963 photo of a couple of Des Moines & Central Iowa 50-foot double-door single-sheathed rebuilt steel box cars. Note the radial roofs. Propst pointed out these are similar to the wrecked car shown below.
- Richard Stemler 1960 photo of another DM&CI car, no. 2135, although this might still be sheathed with the original wood siding.
- Richard Hendrickson said this was one of 200 cars in the 2000-2199 series. Formerly Rock Island cars, they were built in 1930 and reconditioned (though not significantly modified) in 195(x?) before being acquired by the DCI. On the Rock Island they were originally numbered 262450-262799 and 264000-264149.
- Jerry Hesley 1971 photo of an 11-panel ribbed triple CB&Q hopper, which could be represented by the MDC kit. (The kit, in my opinion, is rather heavy-handed, but at least the number of ribs match.)
- SD Marty 1960 photo of a B&O switch engine with a cut of neat box cars in the background. (I kept this photo pretty big, as there is so much neat detail to see.)
- SD Marty 1964 photo of a B&O wagon top, no. 376035. It looks like it has been rebuilt with a wider door.
- Richard Stemler photo of a B&O EMD unit crossing the NYC at N. Vernon, IN in 1958, while a Central train waits patiently. Again, a photo I kept big to show the great detail, even the condition of the grade crossing and street.
- Propst remarked that Soph and Richard often went to this site on weekends.
- SD Marty photo of a CNJ box car on the Willow Creek bridge.
- Hendrickson said that this was a class XM-3 box car in the 22001-22480 series originally assigned to the Central RR of Pennsylvania and delivered with CRP reporting marks in Oct. '47. Series 22501-23250 were apparently identical and delivered at the same time (also to the CRP) but were assigned to class XM-4 (for no apparent reason). In between were 20 cars (22481-22500, also XM-3's) which were painted Pullman green and equipped for passenger express service.
He said that though of standard AAR postwar design, these cars were unusual in having 10 ft. 0 ins. IH and 3/4 Improved Dreadnaught ends. In addition, they had 7 ft. wide doors.
Soon after these cars were placed in service the CRP was phased out (c. '53) when it no longer provided the CNJ with tax advantages and the cars were restenciled with CNJ reporting marks.
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- D Marty 1960 photo of 15-pocket flat car CGW 3784. How's that for a load? And check out the neat single-sheathed box car to the right.]
- Hendrickson said that CGW 3700-3799 series, 52 foot long, were built July 1934. Many of these cars were converted in the late 1930's to early TOFC cars. This car has obviously been relegated to company service by 1961; note the absence of load limit and light weight stenciling, which would have been required if it had been in interchange.
- SD Marty 1957 photo of a PRR Commonwealth flat with a couple of REA trucks. NEAT! Notice how they are blocked onto the deck. I would assume they would have a billboard ad on the middle of the truck when in service.
- Note the double taper on the side sill of the flat, the spotting feature of the Commonwealth car - kits made by Walthers and Tichy.
Tim O'Connor said to note that those trucks are Ford "C" series - Athearn is producing these.
- SD Marty 1962 photo of TOFC.
- Mike Clements said this photo is of an ACF "Hitch Hiker". TTX numbers would be 472000-472999, 476000-476999, 478000-478307, 478498-478999 and 16 cars in the 478308-478497 series. He said the closest van is a beaded side Fruehauf and is the prototype for the Athearn 40 foot dry van.
- SD Marty 1960 photo of tri-level auto racks.
- SD Marty 1972 photo of RI twin ribbed hopper, no. 10945, a second-hand Virginian, as the ghost of the former owner's lettering shows. I'm pretty sure (but will check) that this is a 33-foot car, so could be represented by the Athearn kit, not the Accurail hopper.
- SD Marty 1970 photo of a Milwaukee ballast hopper, no. 54074. Richard Hendrickson said the car is one of 2,000 70-ton Enterprise ballast hoppers built by GATC for the Milwaukee Road in 1929. The original number series was 340000-341999, and a builder's photo was included in the 1931 through 1946 editions of the Car Builders' Cyclopedia. When or why the car was renumbered he doesn't know, but he's doubtful that 54074 is a correct number; in the late '60s the 54000 series numbers were assigned to some fairly modern box cars.
- SD Marty photo of a couple of Peabody twin hoppers, one ribbed, one offset.
- Propst said the 207 is shoving a "Deckers" (Armour) cut into the south end of the M&StL Middle Yard in Mason City, IA in Dec. of '60. This is Job Three. They would have just pulled "Deckers" and are making up the "DMX" (Decker Meat Express) having Chicago connections with the IC at Ackley, IA and Kansas City connections with the CGW at Marshalltown, IA.
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